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Jens Herrmann
CHECK - Ensure visual integrity

Interesting Idea but I do see major flaw. We usually use units to save width. If we use your proposed alignment we  maybe run into space issues.

Never the less I will present your proposal to some “manager and accountants” and ask them what they think.

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Jens Herrmann
Planned scenarios: fictitious data

You can use the 3-letter-code for countries.

 

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Jens Herrmann
Structural average

Hi Roland,

In German speaking countries Ø means  mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%98. and this symbol is widely used in business reports (as far as I can tell).

Is there a internationaly used alternative for Ø in buinsess reports? If so we should check it.  But symbols used in math and statistics are not allways the best soultion because they are not allways intuitive for ‘business people’ hence not accepted.

 

 

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Ronald van Lent
Structural average

With the increasing growth and importance of data science within organisations and to provide a better link between statistics and reports, would it not be better to adopt international notation standards from statistics/mathematics into the IBCS standard notation instead of determining “own” symbol sets, which in fact have a complete different meaning.

For example: Ø means either empty set, or is used to distinguish between a “O” and a zero. Or in engineering it means diameter.

x̅ (x bar) or μ (mu) is being used instead (where x bar is sample statistics and mu population parameter).

 

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Ronald van Lent
CH 5.1 Show the impact of inflation

Problem: The graph is showing the impact of inflation. But also deflation is possible. And in case of deflation the blue impact bar is overlaying the actual column/value.

Suggestion for improvement: I foresee 2 options

a) make the impact bars smaller (half the width of the actual column)

b) right shift the impact a little so no 100% overlap occurs

I would favour option a) as this is also in line when showing a variance up/on a column.

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Planned scenarios: fictitious data

“BG” is also the country code for Bulgaria (see e.g. https://laendercode.net/en/2-letter-code/bg).

“BD” (country code Bangladesh) or
“BT” (country code Bhutan)
could be a alternative options.

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UN 5.3 Unify outlier indicators

Isn’t this rule a little bit contrary to rule CH 2.1 (avoid clipped bars) ?

Are there some criteria we could use in order to know whether we should clip a bar or not ?
(Maybe ‘importance’ is to fuzzy to be the single criteria.)

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CHECK - Ensure visual integrity

Suggestion regarding alignment of numbers in tables:

Traditionally numbers in tables ares shown right aligned, like in the following part of a table.

ideascalingintables_vzforibcs_table1_20180506

In this example the bigger numbers occupy more space and start earlier from the left, but all the zeros create a lot of clutter.
According to IBCS SI 5.2 we should not show more than 4 digits in tables and according to IBCS UN 1.2 we should use metric prefixes (k, m, b). This could lead to presentations like the following one.

ideascalingintables_vzforibcs_table2_20180506

Unfortunately, the 10 m€ of sales occupy now much less space than the 9,2 m€ of costs or the 1,05 m€ of personnel expenses.
This we can change using decimals, like shown in the following.

ideascalingintables_vzforibcs_table3_20180506

However, at a first glance, the 1,05 m€ of personnel expenses stand out more now than the bigger 1,6 m€ of gross margin which could lead to incorrect first impressions.
Applying the recommendation of aligning the numbers to their decimal sign (I don’t remember with certainty where this comes from. Maybe someone of you can help), the presentation of the m€ corresponds better to their values, but now the numbers in k€ stand out more.

ideascalingintables_vzforibcs_table4_20180506

My suggestion is now to align all numbers of one column according to where the decimal sign of the base unit would be (e.g. € instead of k€ or m€), like shown in the following example.

ideascalingintables_vzforibcs_table5_20180506

This is even more relevant if we look at measures with different base units, like kg, quantity, head count, averages, etc. where scales use to differ more and more often.

ideascalingintables_vzforibcs_table6_20180506

What do you think about it?

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Greg Davey
SA 1.1 Know own goals

I recommend an improvement in the English by changing “The least goal is to inform …” to “As a minimum the goal is to inform …”

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Greg Davey
SA 3.1 Detect, explain, or suggest

A message could contain a detection and/or an explanation and/or a suggestion.  I propose SA 3.1 title be renamed to “Detect, explain and/or suggest”.

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